What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

William Moore

William Moore, US Army

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North Korea.

The North Korean Army is HUGE compared to the size of the nations population and economy. 10% of the population is in the Standing Military. Literally 25% is in the total military force.

Half of there Tanks are basically little more then Armored cars in modern combat. The Other tanks are mostly light amphibious tanks.

They have massive amounts of fixed artillery that would be blown up only a short time after being used. There infantry tactics include open field charges like the Japanese used in WWII. (Which didn’t work and would work even less now)

The NK air force and Navy are useful for a few suicidal attacks and that’s about it.


1.4 million active personnel and 2.1 million reserve personnel. In addition, there were approximately 1.3 million paramilitary personnel.

This entry is a little unfair. Because it would be better to say that the Indian military is a small well equipped professional force. Backed by a Massive reserve force of Militia.

There small arms while modern are so random in numbers and distribution that its a little hard to get ahold of the situation.

Much of there equipment is the kind that you would arm a very light mobile force with. Which makes sense, when you look at the size of India.

They have large numbers of older Artillery.


There Helicopter force is a small group of Modern Unites backed by a large collection of outdated aircraft.

Like wise there air force is about half modern air craft. And Half outdated aircraft.


2 million men.

Large numbers of them being infantry.

Lots of Artillery.

Lots of light armored vehicles.

  • There tanks are actually pretty good budget tanks.
  • There air force is about half modern and half outdated.

It’s less that they are a “Large crap military” like North Korea. And more that they are a large light military.


One that a lot of people don’t talk about.

But a lot of Russian Military equipment is literally useless because of being in storage. Being out dated. Being in bad condition.

Russia has more tanks then any nation on earth. But literally 2/3rd of them are in Storage. And only kept around to be sold and to allow them to say “We have the most”

Artillery again.

But all four of these examples have the same thing in common.

They are all built to actually server a superpose that there composition supports.


North Korea: Make it to costly to mess with them.

Russia: Make it to costly to mess with them and bully bordering nations.

India: Counter Chinese Forces.

China: Counter Indian Forces. Make it to costly to mess with them.

Jeffrey Smidt

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For the most part, all of them. The use of mass conscripts armed with cheap bolt action rifles relying on mass formation has pretty much ended.

Tuan Nguyen

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Q. What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

A. Due to the small size of their population/military, their existential requirement to not lose any war, and relative large war chest, Israel and Singapore are kindred in having quality state of the art weaponry and hard training.

Articles discuss Quality vs Quantity views from various sources/think tanks, including the Moscow Times. In addition lively Quora discussions over the subject using WWII as proof. Finally analysis of IDF and Singaporean Armed Forces, their wikipedia links and discussions of current relative military strengths and ranking.

Nathalie Boehler

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his Singaporean counterpart, Lee Hsien Loong, April 19, 2016

The ties between the two countries started even before diplomatic relations were formally established in 1969

The current Prime Minister of Singapore, Lee Hsien Loong, responded to the invitation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The third head of government in the history of Singapore is its first leader to visit Israel, where he arrived on Monday as part of a historic visit consolidating nearly fifty years of relations and cooperation between the two states.

The link between the Lion City and the Jewish state goes back to the first years after the establishment of Israel, even before diplomatic relations were officially established in 1969.

It was then that the premier — and the father of the current prime minister, Lee Kuan Yew — quit the Malaysian Federation in order to found Singapore. His army was then comprised of merely two infantry regiments commanded by British officers and two thirds of the soldiers were foreign. Like Israel in 1948, Singapore has very quickly felt the need to build a defense amid a turbulent local and regional situation.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Defense Minister Goh Ken Swee and Major General Rehavam Zeevi (Gandhi), 22 July 1967

Seized by the urgent task, Lee Kuan Yew first turned to India and Egypt, the "natural" allies of the "nonaligned," eventually choosing to secretly deploy Israeli military advisers.

General Rehavam Zeevi (Gandhi), Colonel Yaakov Elazari and Colonel Yehuda Golan and other officers nicknamed "the Mexicans" by the Singapore government who wanted to hide their presence in the region, have overseen the creation of the current Singaporean army and were the source of its military doctrine: the "brown Book."

"The Singapore army was built, trained and equipped following the model of the Israeli army. Singaporeans are surrounded by Muslim countries, making their islands susceptible to paranoia. For this reason the State has developed a disproportionate military, broad and powerful. And from this point of view, their army is for them very similar to the Israeli army," said Yossi Melman, Israeli security and intelligence expert.

Singaporean men, whether they are Chinese or belong to small Malay and Indian minorities are subjected to two years of military service followed up by reserve duty that can amount to up to forty days a year until they reach the age of 40.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

The Singapore Armed Forces, an army modeled on the Israeli army

The Singaporean army, today considered one of the most powerful in Southeast Asia has, since the late 1960s, used the same type of weapons as Israel's military and can mobilize hundreds of thousands of reservists within a few hours.

Since Israeli military advisers gradually left the city-state in the mid-1970s, close relationships have developed in the field of defense industry and technology in general.

For Israel, Singapore is now one of the main customers of its military industry, the outcome of forty years of cooperation carefully kept as a secret.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Singapore's Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen considering purchase of Lockheed Martin's F-35 fighter jet

"We find in Singapore almost all the types of weapons produced by the Israeli army. The research projects or prototypes of some of them are sometimes partly funded by the city-state, which then has a license to produce these systems," says Melman.

The arms trade contracts between Israel and Singapore include the sale of tanks, air-to-ground "Barak" missiles and the "Hermes" drone system, fighter jets equipped with the latest Israeli electronic devices and warships.

Recently, cooperation between the intelligence services of the two states has increased due to the terrorist threat posed by the Islamist organization "Jemaah Islamiyah," responsible for the Bali bombings in 2002 and the Marriott Hotel bombing in Jakarta the following year.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Guided missile corvette "RSS Victory." Israeli electronics and SAM "Barak"

"Israel has a significant presence in Singapore with experts, delegations and military installations. In addition, there is close cooperation in terms of exchange of information in the field of intelligence, particularly due to the presence in Asia southeast of terrorist groups such as al-Qaida and Hezbollah-affiliated networks," Melman says.

In 2014, the Israeli military industry unveiled at the Singapore Airshow its drone Super Heron, touted as "the world's most advanced MALE or super-tactical UAV," developed by IAI (Israel Aerospace Industries) whose characteristics surpassed those of its predecessor, the Heron ("Shoval" in Hebrew), operational since 2005.

Singapore Land Systems,Singapore Military Power Force, Military Singapore

In addition, the show was an opportunity for the Israeli weapons producer Rafael to unveil for the first time its "Iron Beam" defensive shield, inspired by the famous "Iron Dome" and capable of intercepting mortars and missile fired from a very short range by using a laser.

Additionally, the visit of Lee Hsien Loong is returning the friendly gesture and declarations of Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, who went to Singapore to pay his last respects to the first premier who died last March at the age of 91.

"I will represent the State of Israel and its citizens, not only to express our condolences on the death of a founder of Singapore, but also to express our appreciation for his work as valuable and important leader. And I have no doubt that relations between the two countries will continue to strengthen," Rivlin asserted.

Nathalie Boehler is journalist for i24news

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

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What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Israel and Singapore’s discreet but flourishing defense relationship.

BY YOSSI MELMAN MAY 1, 2016 12:38

In first visit ever by Singapore PM, leader thanks Israel for defense aid over the years

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with visiting counterpart from Singapore, Lee Hsien Loong. (photo credit: HAIM ZACH/GPO)

Last week Lee Hsien Loong, the prime minister of tiny Singapore, paid an official visit to Israel. It was the first visit of its kind. Accompanied by ministers and businessmen, he and his host, Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu, issued statements praising the good relations and joint ventures between the two countries in the fields of hi-tech, cyber, water, environmental conservation and more.

Netanyahu also mentioned the first prime minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, who happens to be the father of the current one and is considered in his country as the founder of the republic. Netanyahu “forgot” to mention the first chief minister, David Marshall, who was a local Jew, whose legacy has been erased from Singaporean history books by the dictatorial regimes of father and son.

However, what was missing during the visit in all public declarations was the glue that binds the two countries. That glue, according to foreign reports, is the military, intelligence and security ties between the two countries. The ties are very close to the extent that Singapore has over five decades become a very important market for Israel’s military industries not only in Southeast Asia but on a global level, and a partner in joint research and development ventures of advanced weapon systems. The country attracts hundreds of former Israeli military and intelligence officers and hosts major security corporations such as Israel Aerospace Industries, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Elbit Systems, in addition to the Israeli Embassy with its military attachés.

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Surprisingly, it was the guest who recalled the secret past military ties by saying, “We thank Israel for your assistance when Singapore was forced to get its independence in 1965, when our security and survival were in doubt. Israel Defense Forces helped to build our armed forces when other states refused.”

Lee also recalled how he first visited Israel in 1977 when he was a junior military officer while escorting Lt.-Gen. Winston Choo, then his country’s chief of staff and now the ambassador in Tel Aviv.

Singapore is a modern-day city-state spread over 700 square kilometers, with a population of 5.5 million. Seventy-five percent are of Chinese descent, 13% Malayan Muslims and 10% Indians. It is surrounded by two large Muslim nations – Malaysia and Indonesia.

In that sense Singapore sees parallels between its situation and Israel’s: two small nations with advanced economies, surrounded by hostile states with different backgrounds, religions and cultures.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Israeli soldier with Spike anti-tank missile launcher

This seeming similarity brought Singapore in the mid ’60s to ask Israel to build its armed forces, after India, Egypt and Britain declined.

In 1965 Israel sent a military delegation led by Col. Yaakov Elazari and later by Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who years later would be the defense minister. The Israeli advisers advised Singapore to form an army based on the IDF’s experience, tactics and doctrines.

To conceal the presence of their nationality the Israeli advisers were locally referred to as the “Mexicans.”

After forming the armed forces, Israel began supplying Singapore with weapons of all sorts and, according to foreign reports, it continues to do so today. According to these reports, the arms deals have included patrol and missile boats, upgrading of fighter planes, intelligence equipment, missiles and control and command centers.

Defense News reported that the Singaporean air force is flying two squadrons of Israeli- made drones. One is composed of the Hermes model manufactured by Elbit, and one the Heron made by IAI.

The French newsletter Intelligence Online wrote last year that Singapore also purchased dozens of Israel made Merkava tanks to be used as artillery to repel any future invasion of the country.

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Since the Defense Ministry doesn’t name the countries that purchase weapons from Israel, it is unknown what the export volume to Singapore was. But if all the deals, as reported in the foreign media, are added up, it is possible to conclude that Israel has sold Singapore over the years weapons worth billions of dollars.

It was also reported that the two countries’ military industries cooperate in joint ventures in third countries.

For example, IAI and its Singaporean counterpart won a tender to upgrade Turkish fighter planes. Another pattern revealed by some foreign reports is that Singapore invests money in the research and development of Israeli weapons systems and in return gets to manufacture them in its own industries.

One example stands out. For the last five years there were consistent reports in the foreign media that Singapore was financially involved in the Israeli-made Iron Dome, a system to “kill” rockets and missiles, which was used in the last two wars in Gaza.

Both Israel and Singapore didn’t comment.

Last week during Lee’s visit, it was the Singaporean Ministry of Defense that broke its own silence by announcing that it had bought advanced radar from Elta, a subsidiary of IAI. This radar is part of the Iron Dome system.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

US grants $225 million more to Israel’s anti-missile Iron Dome

In the last decade-and-a half, since 9/11/2001, intelligence cooperation between the two nations to combat terrorism has been on the increase. Together with foreign intelligence agencies, Singapore exposed terrorist cells of al-Qaida and recently Islamic State that originated in neighboring Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines.

The cells planned to hit ships anchoring in or sailing to the port of Singapore, embassies and other Western installations, including Israel’s.

The Mossad, for its part, uncovered a Hezbollah plot that spread from the Philippines to bomb the Israeli Embassy in Thailand.

One can expect that after the visit of Lee, who invited Netanyahu for a reciprocal visit, Israeli-Singaporean relations will develop even further.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Skye Gould et Paul Szoldra Mar. 15, 2017, 1:16 PM

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

US Navy

An all-out fight may be the only real way to compare military strength, but fortunately, the world hasn't had many opportunities lately.

Despite an increasingly tense situation in the South China Sea , continued fighting in Ukraine , et proxy wars throughout the Middle East , warfare between nation-states has mostly taken a backseat to peacekeeping missions and fights against terror groups.

Still, a simple evaluation of pure military power can be interesting, so we turned to the Global Firepower Index , a ranking of 106 nations based on more than 50 factors — including each country's military budget, manpower, and the amount of equipment each country has in its respective arsenal, and its natural resources.

It's important to note the index focuses on quantity while ignoring significant qualitative differences. For example, North Korea's 70 submarines are old and decidedly low-tech compared to what the US and others have. The index doesn't take into account nuclear stockpiles , which are still the ultimate trump card in geopolitics. And it doesn't penalize landlocked nations for lack of a standing navy.

We've created a chart to compare the top 25 militaries according to the Global Firepower Index. The ranking was released in April (before events like the Russian invasion of Eastern Ukraine in August, ISIS's blitz through Iraq, and the flare-up between Israel and Hamas) and involves a complex set of data that is subject to ongoing adjustments and corrections.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

Skye Gould / Renseignements d'affaires

Here Are The Key Findings From L'index :

America's investment in being the world's leading military force.

The US leads the world in military spending at nearly $600 billion a year. China is in a distant second, at nearly $160 billion — less than one-third of America's overall spending.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation

Selon un rapport de la Institut international de recherche sur la paix de Stockholm (SIPRI) , the US has reduced its defense budget by 7.8% chiefly because of America's gradual withdrawal in overseas military operations, such as in Afghanistan and Iraq. However, President Donald Trump's proposed budget would effectively reverse that downward trend.

Russia, meanwhile, has increased its arms spending and continues to modernize its military equipment and implement higher quality training for its personnel.

Aircraft carriers are key, but few countries have even one.

Aircraft carriers contribute greatly to a country's overall military strength. These massive vessels allow nations to project force far beyond their borders and across the entire face of the globe. They're essentially mobile naval and air force bases.

Aircraft carriers can also carry unmanned aerial systems — drones — which significantly change the global surveillance game.

The US's absolute monopoly on super-carriers significantly boosts its forward operating power. The US has déployé an aircraft carrier toward the Persian Gulf to bolster its sea and air power before possible strikes against ISIS in Iraq. It also has others keeping a close on the Korean peninsula.

Russia has previously deployed an aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean to support the Assad government in Syria.

What militaries today exemplify 'quality over quantity'?

KCNA / Reuters

North Korea's submarines are pretty much useless.

At first look, it seems North Korea is amazing when it comes to submarine warfare, but there's a little more to the story.

Pyongyang does command one of the largest submarine fleets on earth, but most of its vessels are unusable.

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