Is there anything legal but immoral?

Greg Olson

Greg Olson, Catholic, reader, runner, aerospace engineer

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(Assuming USA)

This is question is in fact impossible to answer, because there is not one uniform moral system held by all Americans.

Notez que the legal system is nothing more than an enforcement of popular morality, and serves as the "best" compromise or average of moral systems held by Americans.
Thus, the question is impossible to answer, since whatever moral system you personally hold likely differs a little from the "national average," but this average is still the "best" representation of the population as a whole. (I keep putting la meilleure cure in quotations because the legal system almost certainly isn't a perfect average or compromise--it's only the best we can do as a voting democracy.)

For example, as a Catholic I am completely convinced that abortion is gravely morally wrong, but since the majority of voting Americans think otherwise, it is not illegal.
This is what it means to be part of a representative democracy--there will very probably be a few laws that you don't like. The only sure way to live in a state where the laws match your moral code perfectly is to be a king, where your word is law.

J'espère que cela a aidé,

Rose D

Rose D'cruz

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Tomi Okafor, LLB Law, Houdegbe North American University Cotonou Benin · Author has 238 answers and 6.9m answer views

  1. Reversing surrogacy child/ adoption.

It’s like this.

*Marcy* was pregnant with her baby which will be due in 9 months time. Since she is a single mother, she has decided to put up adoption.

A childless couple in their mid 40s were first on the list to adopt the baby. The couple were overjoyed.

They paid for her medical check ups.

And when Marcy couldn’t work due to back pain, the couple arranged a maid for her and paid her bills.

When the baby was due, the couple arranged her to stay at the best private hospital in town. The couple couldn’t sleep worrying about Marcy and the baby.

When the child was born, he was handed over to the couple. They were overjoyed. The couple held the baby, hugged him. They cared for the baby more than anything else. It was leur bébé.

By law, a mother has three days to ask for the baby back.

On the second day, Marcy called them and asked for the baby back.

In an instant, the couple’s baby was ripped out of their arms. There was nothing they could do to prevent it.

2. Jilting your partner.

*Tom* proposes his long time girlfriend Stacy. They were in a lovely relationship for 6 years. They have been on a beautiful carribbean cruise together, spent time stargazing in Canary Island. Whispered promises to grow old together. He thought that he knew her. He was in love with her.

Two days before their wedding was supposed to take place, she ditched him and eloped with his best friend. His best friend, who was his business partner and equivalent to blood brother.

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But that wasn’t the worst part.

She emptied the money on their joint account. She took his mother’s jewels since she had access to them. She took her car which, he was paying the loan for.

Tom lost his savings, best friend and his girlfriend on the same day. He could do nothing about it.

Sarthak Gulati

Sarthak Gulati, Central banker, Ex- Civil servant, Economist, Thinker

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Morality is concerned with personal values and vary from person to person while Ethics is the society's conception of what constitutes right and wrong.

Plenty of such things which are legal but immoral according to my set of morals. Most of these relate to inactions.

While society prevents unethical actions through laws but rarely makes legal provisions against inaction.

  • Not helping a dying accident victim on the road
  • Not preventing physical, sexual or mental abuse you witness against a vulnerable individual
  • Not giving your extra food to a hungry poor and instead throwing it away
  • Not reporting a case of corruption

La liste est infinie.

In addition to inaction, there are also some actions which might be legal, yet unethical.

  • Voting for a candidate who promotes hatred and violence against a particular community
  • Holding on to your pharma patents despite recovering revenues multiple times your cost
  • Using loopholes in contract to evade genuine payments to your workers/suppliers

Laws are never enough to stop immoral individual behavior.

Dixie L. Davis

Dixie L. Davis, former Program Director, Transitional Living Program (2002-2009)

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Réponse d'origine: What are some of the most immoral things that are perfectly legal today?

The churches that preach prosperity doctrine, those who preach that if you give to the church, God will reward you in earthly riches, are horribly immoral. They prey on the poor and the weak, the most needy, and serve only to enrich their leaders.

Joyce Meyer claims she's been "blessed by the Lord", but really she's been blessed by all the people she's hoodwinked. Her church has bought Meyer several homes for herself and her family---all tax free, and all the upkeep, about $500,000/year, tax-free, including utilities, etc. The church bought her husband a $100,000 Mercedes, and bought her a $10 million jet, a $2 million home, houses worth another $2 million for her children, and the headquarters cost $20 million to build, and almost $6 million to furnish, including a $30,000 table, a $23,000 toilet, a $14,000 bookcase, etc.

Cornerstone Church in San Antonio doesn't release its financial report anymore (unlike every other 501(c)3, but its last financial report listed the base salary for its lead pastor, John Hagee, as $1 million/year. Base salary. Plus housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc. All tax-free----Hagee doesn't pay taxes, the church doesn't pay taxes.

Benny Hinn is a fake faith healer with a net worth of $42 million. Ed Young of the Fellowship Church in Dallas gets $1 million/year plus a $240,000 parsonage allowance for his $1.5 million, 10,000 sq. foot home.

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Bishop Charles Blake of the West Angeles Church of God in Christ has a salary of $900,000 and lives in a 10,000 sq. ft. mansion, although most of his parishioners are poor. Bishop T.D. Jakes of Dallas lives in a $1.7 million mansion, and wears custom suits, huge diamond rings, and has a net worth of $150 million, courtesy of millions of people who he's convinced to send him some portion of the $1000 they get to live on each month, convincing them that if they sacrifice for him, they will reap not only eternal salvation, but also worldly riches that are always just around the corner.

Joel Osteen of Houston, pastor of a megachurch and author of mindless babble books, lives in a 17,000 sq. ft. mansion worth $10.5 million, and has a net worth of $40 million. Bishop Hillard of New Life Christian Center in Houston sent out an email asking for a "favor seed" to upgrade the blades on his helicopter, telling his followers that if they came through with a favor seed of $52/person, they would receive a "break-through favor" within 52 days or 52 weeks. That was 2 or 3 years ago, and they're still waiting.

Paul and Jan Crouch founded Trinity Broadcasting Network. They furnish their set in opulence. The Crouch's preached "God's Economy of Giving", saying people who gave to their television empire would receive God's financial blessings. Paul and Jan have his and her mansions (I believe he died a year or so ago, so they HAD his and her mansions), 1 street apart, in Newport Beach, California. Their salaries were a combined $800,000, but this was augmented with the church paying for a $100,000 motor home, paid utilities, landscaping, pool upkeep, housekeeping, etc; a jet for personal use, the list goes on and on. The Crouches made it a family affair, hiring their relatives for most of the top jobs in the ministry, paying them high salaries and having the ministry furnishing houses, etc for all of them. Oh, did I mention tax-free? No property taxes, no income taxes.

Kenneth Copeland's prosperity gospel ministry is also staffed with family members. He preached the name it and claim it physical windfall from heaven. Want a new luxury car? Name it and claim it, and God will deliver! (sometime. Maybe. In a millenium or 2.) Copeland's ministry is on a 1500 acre property (no property taxes!) outside Ft. Worth. It includes the church, a $6 million mansion for Copeland to live in, multiple aircraft worth a total of $17.5 million, and a private airstrip (tax-free!) Copeland's salary is not disclosed, but it's rumored to be between $500,000 and $1 million/year, plus the church pays all the upkeep (utilities, cleaning, etc) on his mansion.

Crefilo Dollar, pastor of World Changers Intl, one of the largest churches in the country, lives in Atlanta, has an apartment in Manhattan, a Rolls Royce, and luxury jets.

Mike Warnke was a Christian comedian in the 70's and 80's. He testified that he used to be a drug dealer and Satanic high priest, and God delivered him from his life of sin. But it was all a lie. He had been a geeky, clean-shaven guy, no evidence of drug dealing or even any real drug use, no involvement in Satanism. It was all an act to make lots of money in donations from the gullible faithful.

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The list goes on and on and on and on and on, but you get the idea.

Tim Perry

Tim Perry, J.D. Law, University of California, Berkeley (1977)

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Many, many things are legal but immoral.

“Winning” a case when you were actually in the wrong seems immoral to me.

Settling a class action where the class members get minimal or no real benefit and the lawyers get millions in fees seems immoral to me.

Marrying a girl at 16 or less (legal in some states, many with “parental consent”) seems immoral to me.

The fact that a person who is made a paraplegic by a defendant who has millions in insurance gets millions of dollars, while a person who gets injured in the same way by someone with $30,000 in insurance (the legal minimum for a car owner) gets $30,000 seems immoral to me. That’s nothing but a lottery, not a morally defensible system.

Et ainsi de suite.

Law doesn't exist to enforce morality, much as we would like it to do so. It exists to provide persons who think they've been wronged a way to TRY to get justice so that we don't have a society in which the law is “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.”

(Some) lawyers try to do their best to make law and their personal moral code match up. Any lawyer — even a public interest lawyer — who claims they always succeed is a hypocrite or a fool.

I've been a lawyer for 40 years. I'm not a cynic. I'm a realist, and this is what I see.

Viktoryah Marie

Viktoryah Marie, Vocational Nursing Student

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